agreed with. i do not think we should partially agree -- disagree because of semantics. supervisor maxwell: people do not have the benefit at this hearing of a lot of the things we have heard today. i think it is important that we take a clear picture and say we agree with it personally. i agree with supervisor chu. i am more comfortable with that than simply saying this is how it is. i think at some point it is important to say it the way i believe. chairperson mar: it sounds like the committee is in agreement with supervisor chu's recommendation.

supervisor elsbernd: i will make airports when it comes before the board. supervisor chu: b3 is about the number of retirees receiving pensions. i would agree with that finding. -- that finding. finding c1 about proposition h, i agree with the department's response about incorporating that in our findings. and then c2, i agree with the funding. supervisor elsbernd: which department specifically were you agreeing with? supervisor chu: for b3, i think all folks are in agreement with that one. c1, we can incorporate the mayor's office response as well as the department of human resources response. supervisor elsbernd: thank you. supervisor chu: c2, the

liability it was approximately $2.76 million. d1 -- they have been able to inflate retirement benefits. i would recommend that we agree with the mayor's office response in addition to incorporating the department of human resources response. chairperson mar: is there any objection to that? seeing none. supervisor chu: for e1, i agree with the mayor's office response as well as dhr's added comments. supervisor chu: -- chairperson mar: any objection? supervisor chu: f1, i think most people are in agreement with that.

f2 is not something i would respond to. recommendation 1 -- supervisor elsbernd: finding f2 is something the civil grand jury has requested the board respond to. chairperson mar: 2 recommendation -- to recommendation a1? supervisor chu: i thought i did not have to respond to f2. >> you have to respond to the finding, but not the recommendation. supervisor chu: i think most people would agree with that one. recommendation a1, that the city charter should be amended, i

agree with the mayor's office recommendation on that, or their response to that. we should recommend looking further into the recommendations. supervisor elsbernd: i want to chime in on that one. i agree that this recommendation needs further analysis, but i do want to disagree with the mayor's comments that under no circumstances should a hybrid plan be analyzed. i think that is a tad myopic. i agree need to put all options on the table. attend a particularly we should look at hybrid plans for our employees who make significant salaries. i absolutely agree a defined benefit plan should only apply to our lower wage workers. with all due respect, i think some of our employees in the city make over $200,000. i do not think we need to

guarantee them a defined benefit plan and we can come up with a hybrid where they can get a 401k. i do not think that would be too politically difficult to get. it is the responsible thing to do. it honors with a defined benefit plan is all about. it was never supposed to ensure a golden parachute. it was supposed to ensure a safety net. defined benefits that give, as the grand jury has reported, pensioners well in excess of $100,000 -- will have a few in excess of $200,000 -- was never the purpose. i want to disassociate these kinds of absolute "no way will we ever consider a hybrid." we should at least say we will discuss it. supervisor maxwell: i think that is a good point, primarily the recommendation.

some of the recommendations should be explored and require further analysis. supervisor elsbernd: i am ok with that. supervisor chu: -- chairperson mar: thank you. supervisor chu: the board of supervisors should come up with a plan in one year to come up with a way to fund the underfunded pension costs. i agree. we should not enter into an agreement with the unions without voter approval -- i would disagree with that. i think we should incorporate dhr's response. b3, chr should compare -- dhr should compare retiree benefits and other cities. the city should implement legal action.

i disagree with that. i will incorporate the city attorney's response. chairperson mar: is there any objection? seeing none. supervisor chu: recommendation to -- obligations required by the city charter, etc. i think that is something we would agree with and we will probably and dhr's responses to that. >> it has already been implemented? supervisor chu: i would agree with it. recommendation d1 has a number of different recommendations. there are a number of things recommended for the city to look into. i agree with the city looking at all these options as potential items which can i evaluate and to further analyze. chairperson mar: any objection to that?

ok. supervisor chu: d1 we should meet to form a cost sharing agreement -- i would agree with that. chairperson mar: seeing no objection. supervisor chu: is that all? we have gone to all of them? that is it. chairperson mar: there is a motion to adopt these findings and recommendations as revised or amended. seeing no objection, that is our directive. you are going to spend time to draft it based on comments from the meeting -- is that right? thank you everyone for coming out. supervisor maxwell: i would just like to thank the grand jury. we are so very fortunate to have people like you who care enough about our city that you do this hard work.

i just want to thank you for all that you do and for keeping us honest, for making us think about it, for letting folks know we do have people like you that are watching and going over things. again, thank you for your work. thank you for all you have done today. this work is extremely important. again, thank you very much. chairperson mar: thank you also to the staff that spent hours, and hours responding to the civil grand jury. we have adopted these findings and recommendations. is there a motion that we can close the file? >> what action will be taken on item 1? supervisor chu: i will make a motion to file item one and to send item to forward with the incorporated changes. chairperson mar: without objection. are there any other items to be

forwarded? >> no. there are not any. chairperson mar: thank you. the meeting is adjourned.

tape 55 >> welcome, this is carl. >> great to meet you. >> great to me you, and i want to thank you for your interest and this is the city's animal shelter. and come in and a lot of people come here to adopt a animal or if they have lost their animal or looking for other animals. and we deal with other animals like birds and rabbits and you name it. this is more to see in this

facility and more to see in the community. and i suggest you go with an animal control person and see what they co, whether rescuing animals in distress or hit by a car or dealing with aggressive animals or wildlife or a variety of things. you can only get that flavor with them and doing it first hand. >> i have been with animal control for about six years, i spent a year in the kennel and then the office came up and i started doing it and it really fit. it's really the job for me. and animals i have to handle and i know what i am doing, i rarely get scared. [whistle]. we do a lot of investigations and most are not as bad as

people report but everyone once in a while they are. and i had one and people had moved out and the dog was in the inside and it makes me teary and when the dog is in the backyard, and i can pull an animal out of a horrible environment and feel good. >> where does this animal go after this? >> they go for the shots and then the kennel. >> and if they just found this, and once we enter everything in the computer and they can track to find out if the dog went back home. we hold them for five days. >> this is a stray dog and it

came in today and we immobilize it and then put it in a room with food and water. >> and then evaluate for medical behavior and see if anyone is interested in adopting then. >> we want to be sure that their behavior is good for the average adopter and not aggression problem, toward people or animals. >> and if they growl and don't bite the hand, she passes that. and good girl, in case she has something in her mouth, we get it out. and one more test, called the startle test and it startled hear but she came to me. and passed the handling test.

>> for the mental exam i feel for lumps and bumps. and the ears and see if they are infected and look at the eyes and be sure they are clear and don't have cataracts and look at their teeth and heart. this is the first job that i feel i make a dvrngs. -- difference. and we may do 40 to 80 animals a day for treatments. and do blood work and skin scrapings and cultures to diagnose different diseases. and x-rays, i can take an animal that would be euthanized at a different shelter and fix it and get it ready for a home. >> we have a partnership and we

let a professional groomer run a private business from our facility and in turn grooms our shelter animals. what is the big deal of that? when someone comes to adopt an animal, if it looks good, chances are it will be adopted more. >> and we groom and clean the ears and the works. >> typically a shelter wouldn't have grooming? >> not at all. and these dogs are treated with the utmot -- utmost care that others can't provide. this is a shampoo to bring out the luster. and i feel satisfied in helping the shelter pets be adopted and to be a part of such a

wonderful staff, from the top all the way down. if she passes our evaluation, she will stay until she's adopted. if you are interested in adoption and don't want to put them to sleep, that means at a last resort, we will give you a call before putting to sleep. you are not bound to the dog, and we would give you a call, and it's an actual adoption and cost $107 and it will be your dog. >> the volunteers to meet are the unsung heroes in this field that take the animals to hope and nurse them to get strong enough to come down and rehome. without volunteers, i would have to be honest to say this

wouldn't be much more than a pound. we thank god that we have the number of committed people coming down and helping us out, it makes all the difference in the world. >> when you want to come in and volunteer, you go through a general orientation, about two hours. there is a lot of flexibility. and the various programs available, are baseline dog walking. you can work with the cats. you can work with tony's kitty rescue, with the small animals and guinea pigs and birds and chickens. >> you always have an appreciative audience. >> do you feel that what you have learned here helped you with your own dogs? >> the training they don't have? yes. and it's things that you learn,

we usually outlive our dogs and every time you get a new one, you have skills to teach them. >> one of the programs is training program and it's staffed by a member of the community and one of the programs she has is dog socialization. >> we started this program for canine socialization. and all the dogs available for adoption get to play for two hours. and it's a time for them to get incredible exercise and play with other dogs and we have remedial socialization. and it's incredible the dogs and they get exercise and run and tumble and when most adopters come to look in the

afternoon, they are quiet and settled. >> and i want come and someone sees a dog and loves it, it's quick. and after three weekends, i saw him and he connected and i connected and came back. >> what is your experience of working with the animals? >> unbelievable. from the guy that is came to the house and everyone here, they are friendly and knowledge believe and -- knowledgeable and they care about the animals. >> and it's a great place to visit and look at the animals and maybe fall in love and take one home. and look at our grooming program and volunteer program and many say, hey, this

>> welcome to "culture wire." on this episode, we visit with one of the arts commissions very

special teams. >> the asia-pacific island cultural center receives help from the census but our commission. john mean today to talk about in off festival is the executive director. welcome. i understand this is the 13th annual festival. can you tell me the name? >> the name is a celebratory name. we also celebrate what we call

the asian-pacific islanders as well, in terms of culture, experience, and multidisciplinary arts. >> the festival is actually very wide-ranging. you have 16 venues, and how many different performing arts centers? >> we have over 85 artists participating, 16 venues, 21 events. there are over 15 groups that are performing. >> there recently kicked off at the beginning of may and will continue through june 13? correct? >> that is correct. unlike in the past years, we have had to expand the festival because there has been so much activity and so many people want to be part of the celebration. we're very honored and pleased to have the festival going all

the way into june. >> we're kind of coming in on one of the groups. >> francis is one of the pioneers of the asian american jazz movement and is also one of san francisco's very own. we're very honored at the cultural center that we can be part of the program. >> an addition to him, what are some of the other highlights of the festival? >> we have three gallery openings in the festival. one is called reclaim, which is a film art. the others are receptions that are happening at four different the supervisors' offices. the other is called mining the creative source. >> think you for sharing the content with us on "culture wire." >> thank you very much. >> it is in celebration of the

40th anniversary of the strikes at uc-berkeley of the study of ethnic studies. it is a celebration of that history, as well as some of the other items. >> what led to this multidisciplinary collaboration? >> i am from san francisco, and from the 1960's on, that is the aesthetics. the poets, working with the musicians, dancers, the waitresses, the jazz club, actors, whatever. the idea is we are all a community and we share this common story. >> did you reach out to the dancers? how did it come together? did they come to you? >> the choreographer and dancer actually was a student of mine and residency in cameron house

and chinatown. i developed a friendship with her over many years, and also with the spoken word artists. i met him at a benefit at one of the benefits in chinatown. it is part of that ongoing really rich relationship building that happens in our arts community. >> i got a chance to hear a little bit of your performance, and i am a big fan of john coltrane, and you play a phenomenal sax. can you tell me a little about your musical influences. >> a particular piece about john coltrane was he reached out to asia and his global vision. as an asian american growing up and coming up in this country seeking some recognition, that was a very meaningful, making that kind of contribution. i really owe a debt to john coltrane for recognizing my